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		<title>By: Scott Allen</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee:

First off, this post is almost three years old and the Yahoo Group where Steve posted his message is no longer around, so I don&#039;t have any way to track it down. So in response to your question...I have no idea.

That said, you say, &quot;I choose to give him coverage.&quot; Did I do so in a positive light? Did I say people should do what Steve does? Read the whole post. I think I gave a very balanced view of this topic.

I agree that &quot;Wah wah&quot; is hardly an appropriate reply to someone asking to get off someone&#039;s contact list, but accusing me of &quot;giving coverage&quot; to someone you perceive as a spammer when all I did was quote two sentences he posted on a discussion forum almost three years ago is going a bit overboard too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee:</p>
<p>First off, this post is almost three years old and the Yahoo Group where Steve posted his message is no longer around, so I don&#8217;t have any way to track it down. So in response to your question&#8230;I have no idea.</p>
<p>That said, you say, &#8220;I choose to give him coverage.&#8221; Did I do so in a positive light? Did I say people should do what Steve does? Read the whole post. I think I gave a very balanced view of this topic.</p>
<p>I agree that &#8220;Wah wah&#8221; is hardly an appropriate reply to someone asking to get off someone&#8217;s contact list, but accusing me of &#8220;giving coverage&#8221; to someone you perceive as a spammer when all I did was quote two sentences he posted on a discussion forum almost three years ago is going a bit overboard too.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Steve Delaney you quote at the start of the article the same Steve Delaney that works or used to work as an IT recruiter ?

I ask because I have been getting SPAM emails from every social website known to mankind with his name on them.  He took my email address from monster.com and contacted me about an IT job several years ago.    I did not respond.  Regardless, he kept my email address and has signed me up an many many internet sites over the years.   I wrote him a few times asking him to take me off his contact list.  His reponse was, &quot;Wah wah&quot;.     This guy needs to be sued.   Yet you choose to give him coverage.

I got a new email from him today.  He&#039;s now signed me at up doggietube.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Steve Delaney you quote at the start of the article the same Steve Delaney that works or used to work as an IT recruiter ?</p>
<p>I ask because I have been getting SPAM emails from every social website known to mankind with his name on them.  He took my email address from <a href="http://monster.com" class="autohyperlink" title="http://monster.com" target="_blank">monster.com</a> and contacted me about an IT job several years ago.    I did not respond.  Regardless, he kept my email address and has signed me up an many many internet sites over the years.   I wrote him a few times asking him to take me off his contact list.  His reponse was, &#8220;Wah wah&#8221;.     This guy needs to be sued.   Yet you choose to give him coverage.</p>
<p>I got a new email from him today.  He&#8217;s now signed me at up <a href="http://doggietube.com" class="autohyperlink" title="http://doggietube.com" target="_blank">doggietube.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Rollyson</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Rollyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, thanks for an awesome discussion that covers many angles of this issue. I gave this my &quot;exceptional&quot; del.icio.us tag.

Here are my two cents: I believe that, as the center of my network, I am the &quot;host&quot; and serve my network as a host would. Therefore, as you suggest between the lines, ethically it&#039;s best to treat people in your network in line with their comfort levels; how will *they* feel? Loose tie people probably won&#039;t mind, while tight tie people are another story. It&#039;s kind of obvious, but connections have their preferences, and the more considerate we can be, the better.

Best- Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, thanks for an awesome discussion that covers many angles of this issue. I gave this my &#8220;exceptional&#8221; <a href="http://del.icio.us" class="autohyperlink" title="http://del.icio.us" target="_blank">del.icio.us</a> tag.</p>
<p>Here are my two cents: I believe that, as the center of my network, I am the &#8220;host&#8221; and serve my network as a host would. Therefore, as you suggest between the lines, ethically it&#8217;s best to treat people in your network in line with their comfort levels; how will *they* feel? Loose tie people probably won&#8217;t mind, while tight tie people are another story. It&#8217;s kind of obvious, but connections have their preferences, and the more considerate we can be, the better.</p>
<p>Best- Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Allen</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mohammed

LinkedIn is not, first and foremost, a communication tool -- and certainly not a group communication tool. They have always positioned themselves first and foremost as a tool for leveraging existing relationships -- to get business done or to make new ones.

The groups within LinkedIn exist for pretty much two main reasons: 1) to give free members visibility to their fellow members of a group even if they aren&#039;t connected within three degrees, and 2) to allow you to identify fellow members of the group when searching.

Of course, once group members start using LinkedIn, reason #1 becomes somewhat irrelevant. If everyone connects to the leader(s) of the group, then everyone is within two degrees of each other. At that point, from a practical standpoint, then the impact is that your fellow group members show up between your first-degree contacts and your second degree. By being a fellow member of a group, you appear higher in the search results.

LinkedIn Groups simply isn&#039;t a group communication or collaboration tool. They didn&#039;t feel the need to do that, because there are SO many other solutions already out there for that -- why spend resources developing functionality that is already readily (and freely) available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mohammed</p>
<p>LinkedIn is not, first and foremost, a communication tool &#8212; and certainly not a group communication tool. They have always positioned themselves first and foremost as a tool for leveraging existing relationships &#8212; to get business done or to make new ones.</p>
<p>The groups within LinkedIn exist for pretty much two main reasons: 1) to give free members visibility to their fellow members of a group even if they aren&#8217;t connected within three degrees, and 2) to allow you to identify fellow members of the group when searching.</p>
<p>Of course, once group members start using LinkedIn, reason #1 becomes somewhat irrelevant. If everyone connects to the leader(s) of the group, then everyone is within two degrees of each other. At that point, from a practical standpoint, then the impact is that your fellow group members show up between your first-degree contacts and your second degree. By being a fellow member of a group, you appear higher in the search results.</p>
<p>LinkedIn Groups simply isn&#8217;t a group communication or collaboration tool. They didn&#8217;t feel the need to do that, because there are SO many other solutions already out there for that &#8212; why spend resources developing functionality that is already readily (and freely) available?</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed Thiab</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammed Thiab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s go to the basics. What&#039;s the whole idea of having groups in linkedin ? What is a group supposed to be without the links and communications among its members ? Why would I set up a special group if I cannot communicate with its members and they cannot communicate among themselves as a group ?
What would a group with a special name give its members if it does not allow them to share views, experiences, questions and knowledge on the very same topic that was behind creating the group ?

I would appreciate anyone explaining to me the wisdom of having these groups with crippled communications as they are today ????

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s go to the basics. What&#8217;s the whole idea of having groups in linkedin ? What is a group supposed to be without the links and communications among its members ? Why would I set up a special group if I cannot communicate with its members and they cannot communicate among themselves as a group ?<br />
What would a group with a special name give its members if it does not allow them to share views, experiences, questions and knowledge on the very same topic that was behind creating the group ?</p>
<p>I would appreciate anyone explaining to me the wisdom of having these groups with crippled communications as they are today ????</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Webarnold.net &#187; Doing the LinkedIn Thing</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Webarnold.net &#187; Doing the LinkedIn Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Communicating with Your Connections: Spam or Networking? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cube Rules &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Communicating with your network</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Cube Rules &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Communicating with your network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Intelligence offers up the discussion through Communicating with Your Connections &#8212; Spam or Networking? The writing and the comments offer some good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scot Herrick</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a thoughtful piece.

I think there is a distinction between networking for business and just networking which may end up being business.

I started sending an e-mail once a month to my (growing) circle of people I want to stay communicating with. I consider it a monthly &quot;Holiday Letter&quot; that just lets people know what is going on in my life. In a global economy and with people and their time spread so thin, it is a simple, consistent way to keep in contact with people.

Usually, four paragraphs: job, writing, ham radio, and adventures.

Not asking for anything, just an update with a photo of some place of my family.

I&#039;ve considered adding my LinkedIn crowd to the e-mail, but haven&#039;t done that yet. I think I will.

By the way, in my not very extensive LinkedIn crowd, I only consistently hear from three people, usually in a note or call every few months. So, if you haven&#039;t exchanged anything from someone on your LinkedIn list for a year, how willing would you be to help the other person?

(And Jason Alba&#039;s newsletter rocks!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a thoughtful piece.</p>
<p>I think there is a distinction between networking for business and just networking which may end up being business.</p>
<p>I started sending an e-mail once a month to my (growing) circle of people I want to stay communicating with. I consider it a monthly &#8220;Holiday Letter&#8221; that just lets people know what is going on in my life. In a global economy and with people and their time spread so thin, it is a simple, consistent way to keep in contact with people.</p>
<p>Usually, four paragraphs: job, writing, ham radio, and adventures.</p>
<p>Not asking for anything, just an update with a photo of some place of my family.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve considered adding my LinkedIn crowd to the e-mail, but haven&#8217;t done that yet. I think I will.</p>
<p>By the way, in my not very extensive LinkedIn crowd, I only consistently hear from three people, usually in a note or call every few months. So, if you haven&#8217;t exchanged anything from someone on your LinkedIn list for a year, how willing would you be to help the other person?</p>
<p>(And Jason Alba&#8217;s newsletter rocks!)</p>
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		<title>By: b5media - Summer Business</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>b5media - Summer Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] contact? Where are the boundaries? What&#8217;s spam and what&#8217;s just networking? Scott Allen asks the question and finds out the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Des Walsh</title>
		<link>http://linkedintelligence.com/communicating-with-your-connections-spam-or-networking/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Des Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is surely a difference between how to deal with this issue in terms of whether you have a relatively small (say less than 300) first level network or a very large one. I have a mailmerge program and send a message - so far *very* infrequently - to everyone. I endeavour to design it as a &quot;relationship-maintaining&quot; letter, letting people know what I&#039;m up to in business, sharing some items I believe could be of interest and inviting them to let me know if there is some help they think I might be able to provide. If they did not want to receive that update and keep in touch, then frankly I would not see any point in keeping them in my &quot;inner circle&quot; of connections and would quietly delete them from the list. As far as I&#039;m concerned, asking this group to do a confirmed opt-in subscription to a newsletter (which my infrequent update is not) would be inappropriate. If I wanted to invite them to subscribe to a newsletter as a separate item I would go the confirmed opt-in route. My group is hovering around 300 - people I know and trust, to use the LinkedIn phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is surely a difference between how to deal with this issue in terms of whether you have a relatively small (say less than 300) first level network or a very large one. I have a mailmerge program and send a message &#8211; so far *very* infrequently &#8211; to everyone. I endeavour to design it as a &#8220;relationship-maintaining&#8221; letter, letting people know what I&#8217;m up to in business, sharing some items I believe could be of interest and inviting them to let me know if there is some help they think I might be able to provide. If they did not want to receive that update and keep in touch, then frankly I would not see any point in keeping them in my &#8220;inner circle&#8221; of connections and would quietly delete them from the list. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, asking this group to do a confirmed opt-in subscription to a newsletter (which my infrequent update is not) would be inappropriate. If I wanted to invite them to subscribe to a newsletter as a separate item I would go the confirmed opt-in route. My group is hovering around 300 &#8211; people I know and trust, to use the LinkedIn phrase.</p>
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